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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 03:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.speedtest.net/result/467363387.png&quot;&gt;
And... this is tonight... As much as I don&#039;t want to - because at times, cable is smoking - we are sticking with DSL. The evening times are just terrible. Less than DSL. AND it costs twice as much. 

So why wouldn&#039;t we stick with DSL with at least gives us 5mb down for $35/mo? Instead of $60/mo for anywhere from 2.5 - 9 mb down? We seem to only see high speeds in the early a.m. and afternoon.

They are consistently slower in the evenings - presumably when others are hogging bandwidth.</description>
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And&#8230; this is tonight&#8230; As much as I don&#8217;t want to &#8211; because at times, cable is smoking &#8211; we are sticking with DSL. The evening times are just terrible. Less than DSL. AND it costs twice as much. </p>
<p>So why wouldn&#8217;t we stick with DSL with at least gives us 5mb down for $35/mo? Instead of $60/mo for anywhere from 2.5 &#8211; 9 mb down? We seem to only see high speeds in the early a.m. and afternoon.</p>
<p>They are consistently slower in the evenings &#8211; presumably when others are hogging bandwidth.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still a lot faster than what mine is on a good day.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting dismal speed tests this afternoon. The net on cable is moving like a sick dog.

Here&#039;s the results:
&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.speedtest.net/result/462959684.png&quot;&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting dismal speed tests this afternoon. The net on cable is moving like a sick dog.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the results:<br />
<img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/462959684.png"/></p>
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		<title>By: tj</title>
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		<dc:creator>tj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 18:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to answer the question about cable being limited by distance: no.  Just about all cable internet providers use hybrid fiber-coax.  Meaning they run fiber optic lines to distribute signal to the neighborhoods.  because of this, you get the same speed 20 miles away that I would get right next door to the cable co headend.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;tjs last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://tjscott.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/i-dont-have-time/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I donâ€™t have timeâ€¦&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to answer the question about cable being limited by distance: no.  Just about all cable internet providers use hybrid fiber-coax.  Meaning they run fiber optic lines to distribute signal to the neighborhoods.  because of this, you get the same speed 20 miles away that I would get right next door to the cable co headend.</p>
<p><abbr><em>tjs last blog post..<a href="http://tjscott.wordpress.com/2009/03/23/i-dont-have-time/" rel="nofollow">I donâ€™t have timeâ€¦</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Rachelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We use cable.  We love it.  It&#039;s faast.  Only time we notice ANY slowdown is if we try to watch a movie on Netflix at night.  Sometimes it takes a few tries to get it to run right.  But overall we&#039;ve been really happy with Comcast&#039;s version of cable!  By the way, on the pricing, look for deals online then print screen them and show them to your cable guy.  Bet he will match them.  Our&#039;s did!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We use cable.  We love it.  It&#8217;s faast.  Only time we notice ANY slowdown is if we try to watch a movie on Netflix at night.  Sometimes it takes a few tries to get it to run right.  But overall we&#8217;ve been really happy with Comcast&#8217;s version of cable!  By the way, on the pricing, look for deals online then print screen them and show them to your cable guy.  Bet he will match them.  Our&#8217;s did!</p>
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		<title>By: Elton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The phone company always starts throwing out that line about cable internet being a &quot;shared media&quot; type service.  It&#039;s true that the more people get on, the slower your connection between your house and the cable head-end.  What they don&#039;t tell you is that they have their own bottle-neck wherever they put their DSLAM (DSL Access Multiplexer), whether it&#039;s in a cabinet in your neighborhood or in the central office.  The concept of &quot;statistical multiplexing&quot; - the idea that not all people are going to be using the full amount of their connection at the same time, so I can give my backbone a lot less than than the sum of my subscribers&#039; bandwidth - is used in both cases.  Both cable and DSL have bottlenecks, it just that they happen to be in different parts of the network.  I feel like the phone company is always being disingenuous when they tell us about cable&#039;s problems.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Eltons last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.conrady.org/?p=168&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Why I hate soccer:  Reason #835&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phone company always starts throwing out that line about cable internet being a &#8220;shared media&#8221; type service.  It&#8217;s true that the more people get on, the slower your connection between your house and the cable head-end.  What they don&#8217;t tell you is that they have their own bottle-neck wherever they put their DSLAM (DSL Access Multiplexer), whether it&#8217;s in a cabinet in your neighborhood or in the central office.  The concept of &#8220;statistical multiplexing&#8221; &#8211; the idea that not all people are going to be using the full amount of their connection at the same time, so I can give my backbone a lot less than than the sum of my subscribers&#8217; bandwidth &#8211; is used in both cases.  Both cable and DSL have bottlenecks, it just that they happen to be in different parts of the network.  I feel like the phone company is always being disingenuous when they tell us about cable&#8217;s problems.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Eltons last blog post..<a href="http://blog.conrady.org/?p=168" rel="nofollow">Why I hate soccer:  Reason #835</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Shane Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing to add:

Notice that AT&amp;T&#039;s upstream is about twice as fast as cable&#039;s. That might prove useful in Carolyn&#039;s situation when she uploads a lot of photos or other things. I know I enjoy it.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Shane Glasss last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mshaneglass.com/blog/?p=22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Mock University of Arkansas-Monticello Website&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing to add:</p>
<p>Notice that AT&amp;T&#8217;s upstream is about twice as fast as cable&#8217;s. That might prove useful in Carolyn&#8217;s situation when she uploads a lot of photos or other things. I know I enjoy it.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Shane Glasss last blog post..<a href="http://www.mshaneglass.com/blog/?p=22" rel="nofollow">Mock University of Arkansas-Monticello Website</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Shane Glass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Glass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff, here&#039;s a link to my Speedtest results using AT&amp;T&#039;s top tier DSL option: http://www.speedtest.net/result/462449006.png

I was able to hold pretty constant at this speed. I&#039;ve noticed on more popular items like TV torrents and iTunes connections that my connection can exceed this, but usually maxes out at 6 or 7 Mb.

My experience with cable at home was a good one. We were getting constant disconnections and had a tech guy come out. Turns out we had some unnecessary splits and old cabling under our house (in VA we have these things called basements-- what wonders!). The tech guy replaced the cables and connections for free and instantly our drops ceased and bandwidth increased.

I remember researching my options here. In the end I went with DSL because (at the time) the promised speed was the best for the price. We don&#039;t have cable, so there would be the $10 surcharge plus $5 for the rental. (I don&#039;t buy the modems as I had bad experiences with our cable ones back home). That means I&#039;d be paying $65 before any taxes. On the other hand, after a $10 surcharge for a dry DSL line (that is, no land line connection) I pay a flat $45 every month.

I am the last house within city limits on my street and since I got the DSL several months ago, I have had absolutely no downtime or laggy connections. I use strictly wireless with my Apple Base Station Extreme (802.11n) and things have worked flawlessly as far as AT&amp;T goes.

I know a lot of people complain, but from my experience AT&amp;T&#039;s service has been exceptional, both DSL and cell. Granted, yes, the prices for cell service in particular is exuberant, but I am satisfied with the service.

That&#039;s my two cents. Hope you enjoy your l33+ gaming on X-box. My wife won&#039;t let me have one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff, here&#8217;s a link to my Speedtest results using AT&amp;T&#8217;s top tier DSL option: <a href="http://www.speedtest.net/result/462449006.png" rel="nofollow">http://www.speedtest.net/result/462449006.png</a></p>
<p>I was able to hold pretty constant at this speed. I&#8217;ve noticed on more popular items like TV torrents and iTunes connections that my connection can exceed this, but usually maxes out at 6 or 7 Mb.</p>
<p>My experience with cable at home was a good one. We were getting constant disconnections and had a tech guy come out. Turns out we had some unnecessary splits and old cabling under our house (in VA we have these things called basements&#8211; what wonders!). The tech guy replaced the cables and connections for free and instantly our drops ceased and bandwidth increased.</p>
<p>I remember researching my options here. In the end I went with DSL because (at the time) the promised speed was the best for the price. We don&#8217;t have cable, so there would be the $10 surcharge plus $5 for the rental. (I don&#8217;t buy the modems as I had bad experiences with our cable ones back home). That means I&#8217;d be paying $65 before any taxes. On the other hand, after a $10 surcharge for a dry DSL line (that is, no land line connection) I pay a flat $45 every month.</p>
<p>I am the last house within city limits on my street and since I got the DSL several months ago, I have had absolutely no downtime or laggy connections. I use strictly wireless with my Apple Base Station Extreme (802.11n) and things have worked flawlessly as far as AT&amp;T goes.</p>
<p>I know a lot of people complain, but from my experience AT&amp;T&#8217;s service has been exceptional, both DSL and cell. Granted, yes, the prices for cell service in particular is exuberant, but I am satisfied with the service.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s my two cents. Hope you enjoy your l33+ gaming on X-box. My wife won&#8217;t let me have one.</p>
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		<title>By: grant...</title>
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		<dc:creator>grant...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 05:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not to boast (sort of) but i just did that test with my cable internet...here are the results..

download - 10.98
upload - 2.68

i guess living in little rock has its advantages!

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;grant...s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.grantlharrison.com/?p=1143&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Michael and Melanie&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not to boast (sort of) but i just did that test with my cable internet&#8230;here are the results..</p>
<p>download &#8211; 10.98<br />
upload &#8211; 2.68</p>
<p>i guess living in little rock has its advantages!</p>
<p><abbr><em>grant&#8230;s last blog post..<a href="http://www.grantlharrison.com/?p=1143" rel="nofollow">Michael and Melanie</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 03:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if there is a distance issue with cable like ATT tells me there is with DSL.  Here in Tanglewood  ATT tells me i&#039;m at the maximum distance for DSL and cant get the fastest speeds.  They&#039;ve tried to &quot;turn it up&quot;  and i can&#039;t keep a connection.  They turn it down to 389K /s  and it holds fine.  Anyone else live in Tanglewood that has Cable internet?  I&#039;d sure like to try it.  If i could get 2meg i&#039;d be happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if there is a distance issue with cable like ATT tells me there is with DSL.  Here in Tanglewood  ATT tells me i&#8217;m at the maximum distance for DSL and cant get the fastest speeds.  They&#8217;ve tried to &#8220;turn it up&#8221;  and i can&#8217;t keep a connection.  They turn it down to 389K /s  and it holds fine.  Anyone else live in Tanglewood that has Cable internet?  I&#8217;d sure like to try it.  If i could get 2meg i&#8217;d be happy.</p>
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