Reflections and redirections

Oct 18, 2008

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Interview with Ed Stetzer

On Monday, Ed Stetzer interviewed me on the streets of Krakow, Poland about how churches like Journey could get involved in thinking missionally.

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Oct 17, 2008

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Last day in Krakow

I will be flying home from Krakow, Poland tomorrow after a week spent in discovery mode. I traveled here with Ed Stetzer and other pastors to explore ways that innovative churches can plug directly into the work of the Gospel in Central and Eastern Europe.

With majestic-ancient churches dotting every corner of this city which has everything from a 1000 year-old castle to a neon-resplendent Coffee Heaven, it has been a humbling experience to walk where 99% of the residents claim “Christianity” but know no personal relationship with its Messiah.

Especially after walking the sorrow-filled paths of Auschwitz and Berkenauer today, it’s difficult to stomach apathy in the church. I’m eager to embrace, encourage and equip people for the journey of a lifetime into the harvest fields of the nations. One of areas that I sense my church is uniquely equipped to relate with well is Central and Eastern Europe.Â

Coffee House

Rick White and Sebastian Vasquez did a brief interview tonight before the coffee house that we had helped invite folks to all week. Seba shared ways that ordinary folks from churches like mine and Rick’s could discover quickly that there is a great need for them and their skills and experience and love for Christ in Central and Eastern Europe. For instance…

The Krakow Tigers (a professional football team coached by one two of the IMB workers) needs players, incuding a quarterback. (I thought I wanted to apply until Mark related that one guy had his shoulder knocked out of joint just scrimmaging with the team.)
Photographers, web designers and folks who know how to start a business could lecture, host seminars and built relationships that long-term workers here could cultivate.
Anyone who can speak English or even Arkansaw can share in university settings about their town, culture, and American life experiences for conversational purposes.
Businessmen and women can relate skills and know-how.
Students can take classes for a semester or longer at some of Europe’s oldest universities and work to help start and encourage new campus ministries.
Baseball coaches and sports lovers can hold clinics and play with Polish youth.
Teachers can share principles of teaching from the American classroom and even speak in classes here.
State troopers can speak about the dangers of drunk driving, alchohol and drug use and even relate with Polish security firms and law enforcement agencies on policing tactics in America.
A team of young couples could host a parenting conference or even a game night to teach different American games.
A videographer and Photoshop expert could host seminars and teach skills to Polish business people and collegians.

And the list goes on… In short, there is a way to build relationships in Central and Eastern Europe that will enable those who have given their lives to the harvest here to follow up, cultivate, and see many profess faith in the beautiful and all-sufficient name of Jesus Christ if we will but lay down our lives to do so.

I spoke with some upperclassmen tonight during the coffee house about an ancient legend that Krakow was founded by a knight after defeating a dragon by trickery. You can find knight and dragon figurines in most gift shops.

While young adults and Polish in general are easily able to discern legend from fact, they unfortunately relate religion to the status of legend as well. I drew the connection and asked two sisters, “Do Polish young people view religion as a real part of life or legend?” One young lady waved her hand dismissively and said, “No one cares about religion here.”

She went on to relate that while there are beautifully stunning churches everywhere, they have no relevance for her life. I wonder if that is the same for my community and nation? Religion is everywhere, but is it a real part of life? Or have we relegated it to the status of a good, old story with colorful characters but with useless import?

Observations

I’ll be back late Saturday night and will be teaching Sunday. I’ve seen cathedrals and concentration camps. I’ve heard Polish people assign religion to a category of irrelevance. But I’ve also spent time with an incredible team of God-saturated missionaries and strategic workers – in Poland, the Czech Republic, and Hungary.

I’m hopeful, and I’m heartened. There is great work to do here in this war for the souls of Central and Eastern Europeans. And I believe that Christ-followers in Monticello and Arkansas will have a significant role to play in the near future.

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Oct 16, 2008

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Krakow Day 6

I had fun today, but it’s late, and I’m pooped. A quick summary:

A Coffee Heaven run in the early a.m.
Team Krakow meeting all morning
Pizza (again) for lunch – because the place Joe and Becca wanted to take us was “out of food” due to a big order.
Looking at potential properties for Compass International Christian Church with members of Team Krakow
A quick shopping trip
A long, hurried walk from Krakow Square back to hostel (tram was late) so I could meet with Shea about the ISC program.
Bible study at Seba and Erin’s place with Polish friends
Video uploads all night for Ed Stetzer’s blog and fixing video audio on my uploads
ZZZZZ

Tomorrow, we’re off to Auschwitz in the a.m. and then have a major event – a Coffee House in the evening. Last day!

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Oct 15, 2008

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Krakow Day 5 – Free time

Wednesday in Krakow was a misty morning. Workers from the Czech Republic, Krakow, and Hungary all converged on the hostel at 10 a.m. to make some more informational and vision videos for help in connecting churches with the great need in Central and Eastern Europe. As we’ve all gotten to know each other over the past few days, it’s become quite the humor contest at times. It’s hard to stay with these guys and gals over here – they’re extremely fun, sharp, and connected. Not your father’s missionaries.

In addition, I’ve really enjoyed getting to know my team that came from the U.S. – Ed Stetzer, Rick White and Jeremy Dane. Ed flew out today for another mission-vision meeting in Italy, but the crew from City View Church are still here, and we spent the rest of the day enjoying some relaxing downtime.

Steve Brown,Â Ron Brown (both in the Czech Republic) andÂ Trey Shaw (Hungary) joined us for our first real coffee experience at a java center aptly named “Coffee Heaven.” Goodbye instant coffee. Hello steaming hot joe. Whew. Rick was down to one Starbucks 6 oz double shot, and he’s trying to save that for the last day. We sat around and laughed, visited and people watched before heading to the Krakow Square (Rynek).Â

We watched the beer guy walk around and dreamed about picture opps with him some more. It’s a mascot-like beer costume that walks all over downtown Krakow with a “free beer” sign, handing out free beer coupons. This was intriguing to us, for different reasons. I mused about how it might draw crowds to a church event, especially in a dry county. Rick, I think, was interested in knowing if the coupon limit was one per person. Steve, Ron, and Trey related the different cultural attitudes toward “alkahole” (as translated in Polish) in Europe, and it became a cultural study and discussion. All because of the beer guy.

While eating lunch in an outdoor cafe that sat on the edge of the square, the contrast between modern and ancient blurs into the mind’s background. I had to keep reminding myself that 10-acre Rynek Square dates as far back as the 13th century. It’s the largest of all of Europe’s medieval cities, and its austere beauty and worn cobblestones lead one to embrace the slower, relational life of Europe.

We simply wereÂ …at lunch. No agenda other than each other. The conversation traveled between subjects with intermittent laughter faster than a shuttlecock at the Olympics. The elections in the States. Mission strategy. Family. An insanely absurd but appropriate comment from Jeremy (who has a gift for insight and humor at the same time). It was a relational buffet.

After a long lunch, we began walking down one of the many side streets, dodging horse-drawn carriages and trams – again a contrast in modern and ancient. We grabbed some ice cream from a vendor off the square and wound up in front of St. Paul’s Church in the shadow of the 12 stone apostles. It was there we sighted our golf cart tour guide from yesterday – Artur. He greeted us cheerfully, and so began the next hour or so of simply being. The joy of it all was that as Rick, Jeremy and Ron engaged Artur, they were also planting seeds and leading, coaxing, and cultivating the soil of spiritual curiosity in his life. Jeremy had planted seed yesterday as we careened through the Jewish section of Krakow. That seed was watered today as they invited Artur to the coffee house that Team Krakow is hosting Friday night.

Before all was said and done, Artur had invited us to watch football (soccer) in a pub with him tonight. As tempting as that was (after all, wouldn’t that be the ultimate European male experience – watching soccer in a pub together?), we had to rendez-vous back at the hostel (or so we thought). Steve and Trey were taking a train back to the Czech Republic tonight, and it was dinner time, after all that.

We’ve somewhat mastered the tram now, and as we rolled through the streets of old Krakow, Steve and Trey and I shared about our families, our joys, hurts and struggles. It was humbling to hear of the depth of pain – physical and emotional – their families have faced. I shared about Carolyn’s three-time bout with cancer, and we exchanged heartbeats, knowing that suffering and uncertainty are oftentimes what God uses as soul fertilizer for His people.

As we mounted the stairs to the hostel, we were continuing the conversation when Trey shared some warnings about spiritual warfare as it relates to the families of those who serve God in ministry. It left us speechless. We mounted the stairs in silence, and each was left to his own recollections and current prayers for his family. It was blatantly obvious that both of these servants of the living God had faced the painful reality of helplessness as fathers and husbands through difficult moments of illness and hurt. And this, far from family. And this, because they and others here have laid down their lives for the King and His Gospel.

Jesus said, “Truly I say to you, there is no one who has left house or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or farms, for My sake and for the gospel’s sake, but that he will receive a hundred times as much now in the present age, houses and brothers and sisters and mothers and children and farms, along with persecutions; and in the age to come, eternal life. (Mark 10.29-30)

Upon looking at our schedule, we found we were free for the night too – until the Czech team left. So we freshened up – which for guys is basically using the bathroom – and headed back out for supper. Destination: Chinese food. Another meal. Another long visit. We learned that the waitress doesn’t bring you your bill until you signal for it, because they are perfectly fine (and expect you to) with long, lingering meal times. It’s the European way; it’s not just the meal. It’s each other.

We made a quick visit to a local grocery store – almost like a 7-11 – and meandered back to the hostel. The topic of discussion was thoroughly masculine and most unmissionary-like – how to throw a fart. Now that’s my kind of missionary… Steve and Trey’s ride to the train station arrived soon after, and we bid them farewell. We have two more full days here in Krakow, but with their departure, I really sensed that our journey with them – and our churches’ – had just begun.

I know this has been an unusually long entry, but especially after the transparency of the day, and in an attempt to encourage new-found friends and Christ-centered workers the world over, I offer these thoughts from a sermon by George Whitfield on “Satan’s Schemes” and how to identify them:

Satan’s Scheme #1 – Drive us to despair.
Satan’s Scheme #2 – Tempt us to be proud, or to think more highly of ourselves then we should.
Satan’s Scheme #3 – Tempt us to feel perplexed, and to begin to doubt God when our prayers seem to go unanswered.
Satan’s Scheme #4 – Troubling the believer with blasphemous, impure, unbelieving thoughts.
Satan’s Scheme #5 – Tempting us by our carnal friends and relatives.
Satan’s Scheme #6 – Not tempting us at all, in order to “surprise” us when we least expect it.

Whitfield said in his conclusion:

“In the meanwhile, let me exhort my young fellow-soldiers, who, like myself, are just entering the field, and for whose sake this was written, not to be discouraged at the fiery trials that are to sure come their way, if they seek to be found faithful servants of Jesus Christ.

You see, my dearly beloved brethren, by what has been revealed to us, we know that our way through the wilderness of this world to heaven, is beset with thorns, and that there are enemies of the cross to be grappled with, on your way to the promised land. But do not let these, like so many false spies, discourage you from going up to fight the Lord’s battles, but say with Caleb and Joshua, “No, we will go up and fight, for we are able to conquer them.”

Jesus Christ, that great captain of our salvation, has in our place, and as our representative, confused the grand enemy of mankind, and we have nothing to do, but to fight under the banner of the Lord, and to go on from conquering to conquer. Our glory does not consist in being exempted from, but in enduring temptations.

“Blessed is the man, (says the apostle) who perseveres under trial, because when he has stood the test, he will receive the crown of life that God has promised to those who love him;” and again, “Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds.” And in that perfect example of a prayer that our blessed Lord has prescribed to us, we are taught to pray, not so much to be delivered from all temptation, as “from the evil one.”

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Oct 15, 2008

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St. Mary’s Basilica

It’s not often that I’m really proud of a shot, but this one was stunning. I got lucky, pure and simple. I had my Sony Cybershot on night mode, and propped it against a stone pillar to capture this image of St. Mary’s Basilica in Rynek Square in Krakow last night with the full moon behind the church.Â

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Oct 15, 2008

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Interview with Mark

I love Mark’s name. Especially when Ed Stetzer is interviewing him. He is truly “Ed”-worthy. Mark is the interim Regional Leader for Central and East Asia, and he is one of our hosts this week. Mark and Ed sat down to discuss mission strategy.

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Oct 14, 2008

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Interview with Rick White

Ed Stetzer interviewed Rick White yesterday about how churches can engage in ministry in Poland. Part of our mission on this discovery trip is to seek to connect new churches with international mission opportunities.

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Oct 14, 2008

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Krakow-Day 4, the meeting, Czech Republic

Steve Brown stepped up to the plate (or leaned forward on the couch) and shared his heart and vision. He and his family have been living in the Czech Republic for the past four years. As he shared, he commented that what they need from churches in the U.S. is a long-term commitment. He said that those coming should not expect to see people led to Christ during their visit. Rather, they need to understand that they are supporting and undergirding the long-term ministry of the missionaries and workers already living there.

The biggest help is for those who will see themselves as contributing to the harvest process. He described numerous ways for people to be involved and underlined that the Czech people are hard to relate with for those who simply come for a one-hit wonder or for a “mission story” to tell in their church on a Sunday night.

Steve reiterated the great need for church’s who are willing to think outside the box. Strategist leaders need resources, workers and supporters who are willing to sink deep and commit long-term.Â

Steve related that his team’s websiteÂ gomoravia.orgÂ will be up soon.

Observations:

Listening today in this sharing of hearts and meetings of minds, I just kept sensing there’s a great disconnect between willingness in newer, missional churches and the workers on the mission field. At the same time, churches likeÂ mineÂ andÂ City ViewÂ and a host of other missional fellowships need help and direction and resources to connect more directly with missionaries overseas. For a church of limited financial resources to go and be bodily present to assist – both short-term and long-term, there is currently no way to get Joe Willing or Suzy Able to Poland because of flight costs and financial limitations. The spirit is willing, but the wallet is weak.

I’d like to see a renewed vision and effort by the IMB and other mission agencies to set aside mission funds for short-term teams that will directly meet some of the requests that its own workers are submitting and needing.

From a country in whichÂ John HussÂ lived, preached and died for the Gospel to today where his church is simply a museum rather than a vibrant center of Christ-centered faith and practice. He was burned at the stake in 1415. The darkness needs to be lit up again by the light of the Gospel. While we hope earnestly it will not be the light of a martyr’s flame, it is urgently necessary for those to understand that Christ calls us to lay down our lives.

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Oct 14, 2008

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Krakow – Day 4, the meeting, Hungary part 2

Ron Brown and his family have lived in Hungary for 14 years. He studied and learned Hungarian history and culture during the first five years. He initially began doing student work but discovered that Campus Crusade was already doing great stuff in Segud. He then relocated to western Hungary – as close as you can get to Austria without hearing the Von Tropp family.

He began teaching an English class in the university, and at times he was able to share a Christian worldview that caught the attention of collegians. He said that his family kept looking for “glorious failures” so that once they’d had one, they would know what NOT to do the next time.Â

He is now the Cluster Strategist for Poland, Hungary, Czech Republic and Slovakia. Part of the difficulty that he observes in ministering here is that even talking about religious matters brings a disconnect. Europeans have such a historic connection and have heard so much, yet there is no personal element, no identification with faith itself. Religion is seen as this “thing.” It’s as if they’ve received a vaccination against Christianity. When they encounter authentic Christianity, they genuinely have no filter for what is being presented and modeled for them.

“The best thing you can do is simply get a real conversation started,” Brown said. He said that you must get past the walls that are still up. However, once you get to a level of conversational intimacy, you’ll be on fertile ground to present the love of Christ and your own beliefs. Hungarians are very resistant to discussing personal matters until they know that they can trust you. They assume that if you’re telling them something important, you want something from them.

The distrust is so high in the Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland as a result of being considered the stepchildren of Europe and years of abuse and warfare. They describe themselves as contortionists in a circus. Even when trying to join the EU, they had to jump through all kinds of hoops to be considered. Even then, the EU calls them “Eastern” Europe, not Western Europe. So ministry and relationship-building must be intensively incarnational.

Trey Shaw chimed in and said, “In these countries, man, microphone and pedestal equals manipulation.” They want to see presence, someone who will be “around” – not someone who wants to preach at them. The greatest gift to Europeans is a consistent partnership. Don’t go one place one year and another the next. Keep coming and investing in one spot. They perpetuates the relationships.

In addition, many relationships have been kindled by visiting mission teams only to be squandered when American pastors or college students either don’t respond to emails or eventually quit responding. Europeans take relationships very seriously and view Americans as shallow in their relationships.Â

One issue is that once an incarnational relationship is established, they have a tendency to “suck the life out of you.” They’re not used to getting healthy attention or relationships, and so once they begin to get that, it’s fuel for a fire that has almost gone out. Missionaries and short-term workers must be sensitive to the fact that once the masks come off, you’ll find a starving person underneath that can’t get enough of real love and joy and hope that they find in you and your family. Boundaries and open communication must be established in order to help them understand that you love them deeply – and you are still hoping to reach other people for Christ as well.

As others chimed in to help us understand the depth of religiosity in Hungary and Europe, Trey mentioned that the Hungarian translation of the Bible is older than the King James, and that is something they pride themselves on. Yet, less than 1% have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. 60% would say that they are Christian – Catholic, Lutheran, or Reformed. But for many, this “Christianity” is as loose as a family connection (my grandmother is a Catholic).

There was a time when the Holy Spirit was working in this area heavily. There were six mission sending agencies in Budapest in the 1800s. So there is a deep history of God working in this area, but over the years, the churches have lost the effectiveness, vibrancy and place in their communities and hearts of the people. Now what passes for Christianity is not about a relationship with Jesus Christ through faith and love but about religion, power, control and status. Forty years of Communism in Hungary “decimated” Christianity here. During the oppressive reign, believers were pressured into “walking the line.” It was fine for them to continue meeting as long as evangelism and proselyting didn’t take place. Those leaders and pastors that did evangelize were arrested and removed from leadership.

Observation:

The condition of the church in Hungary is eerily similar to that of the U.S. I commented in the meeting that in the U.S., there is enormous pressure by society for Christians to keep what they believe to themselves. And many in our churches live that way without understanding how they have been forced into ghost living. For believers who know the Messiah, the Hope of all Nations to keep that to themselves is not a life of vitality but a shadow of reality – a ghost living.